When starting the map, you're unable to move at all (can still look around, kneel, and walk/ run in place). Footsteps don't make a sound when this happens.
It seems to occur with only certain spawn points.
As a reference, I'm playing the latest update (Nerfs).
can confirm this bug is repeatable for me, (atm I'm trying to see if student preds can eat the player if i just hang out in front of them while their tummies are making the rumblies, yes to all for playing student, no to all playing bella, so testing satie is ANNOYING when this bug happens so much, i've also notice in addition to the stuff above there's no stomach% when this bug occurs, no numbers there at all )
EDIT: student pred ligeska CAN eat Satie. Tried it again after Ghost provided numbers =)
I've tested trying to get pred students to eat me too, only seems to happen if you're the student. I've even tried as Satie (the next biggest after a student) with Ligeska (highest stomach capacity).
not a requirement i've definitely seen student ligeska eat student satie while i hadn't unlocked satie I think this was while I was a student wondering if they would eat me only for ligeska to snarf up the gyaru, if no standard students and apples are available other smaller preds are on the menu....but now the numbers are available...a student bella in theory can eat ligeska but ironically ligeska can't eat bella
yeah why not, other people could use the reference and maybe I'm wrong about student bella. Really the bug isn't occuring on your end? hmmm hard to tell you what's happening without debug, only seems to be at the start of matches...but idk if this will help but I got digested by student Ligeska playing as Satie and my next round said you are dead at the very start of the round as satie so maybe something isn't being cleared from the previous round.
It happens maybe 60% of the time, and it seems heavily dependent on your spawn point. It's also possible to spawn halfway into another student's spawn point.
Like it was mentioned before, if you just died as satie and start a new game, it will still show (you died) on the screen. It goes away maybe after 4 to 5 restarts.
I got the game not to long ago, and I really enjoy it, it's super fun! Also, the lamia scared me half to death, I rounded a corner to go to the cafe, and she was just in my face, I shook my mouse so bloody hard.
Also, a tiny idea, for the lamia, when she eats you or another student, when not digesting, she could hold you in her human half's stomach, and when digestion starts, she could move you down to the snake half. It's just a simple idea, but I thought it would be fun.
Anyways, I look forward to any future updates, and just wanted to say again that this game is really fun! Hope you and whoever else reads this has a good day! :)
is it actually possible to escape from Ligeska after getting caught? doesnt seem to matter what I'm carrying or how many others she has eaten I'm not able to escape.
Really awesome amount of content for $4! Still trying to beat Satie X0
One thing though, I'd love more personality in the sounds the preds make. For example, Satie was described as sort of a bully type, I was half expecting her to be chuckling to herself as she walked the halls, or while she squeezes and prods someone helpless in her stomach.
That sounds fun, giving the preds more of their own unique personality, it would be a nice little touch to make this game all the more enjoyable, good idea! :)
this sorta happens anyway when the final bell goes off, but having an inbuilt nightmare mode turn on once dead would be a fun way to end a round while the player is just watching post digestion
Got an idea for you Ghost. If you add a pool map you could add a mermaid and scylia(Octopus monster girl) that only spawn in the water and can't chase you outside the water. you could also do a Pac-man mode for playing as a pred if you think that would be more fun. just some random Idea I got out of nowhere.
Pretty much. Scylia would probably use her lower mouth since she's a cephalopod. I also think it being a waterpark would be more aesthetically pleasing, but once again it's just a suggestion born from my mind wandering around. It being summer during a heatwave might be a part of where this idea came from.
it took a couple of tries, but i made sure to take mental notes of keys that i had used and locations of keys i didn't use, i recommend actively listening for her footsteps, mono audio headphones make that a grueling task, and the reward is being able to play as her
I using a Door/Corner Lure strategy, when i hear her footsteps i drop a key and hide, she rushes to the key and once she reaches it, she turns back away from you, it's a good way to keep track of her and avoid her.
Making comments about your experience in this game will allow me to make proper adjustments.
I looked at game feedback.
I want players to have a fun experience when playing the normal modes where it does not feel too hard but also not too easy.
I lowered the speed of all predators except for predator4. I greatly lowered the speed of predator3. This was done to give players a better chance to not get caught, but keep in mind, this will not help if you don't use the proper method for breaking a chase. The proper method is in the guide.
The skirt was supposed to be "covered" due to design. The 3D models will have a glitchy sight if players were able to look straight up it.
Sandbox / Custom mode is not something I plan on adding. This would require alot of work to make and the game is finished as of now.
Mass vore is not something I planned on adding. It is only in this game because of the way the game was designed allowed it and it creates a bit of strategy. I do not plan on adding more of this or putting more focus into it.
Android support. I still have this in mind, but it is unknown if I will be able to add this.
CHEARS MATE. I didn't expect such a fast response but I'm glad to see your efforts to make the game more accessible to people that are having a lot of trouble like me. I like the game a lot and hope that now my only problem is my own stupidity and bad luck. These personal issues are still going to fuck me over somehow, but at least I have a better chance at surviving myself.
When you get better, would you consider adding a custom mode down the road? I know the game is finished for now and you're fixing and tweaking things to make the project enjoyable for everyone.
Hopefully there's some kind of workaround for the skirt thing. I honestly think people would prefer the covering being gone and it being a bit buggy to just this weird out of place dark spot.
Thanks for the prompt response and listening to feedback.
For underskirt, in the previous version of the game before the covering was added it looked fine to me. I never noticed anything particularly jank or glitchy, at least during those few times I'd be behind her when she was walking up the stairs. Either way, I'd rather have a glitchy ass than the void personally.
Shame about the sandbox mode. I'm not a programmer so I have no idea how much work it'd be and assumed it wouldn't be too much, since it'd just be letting the player modify existing systems, but if it's a big ordeal then makes sense you wouldn't want to add it to the workload. Still, I do hope you at least keep it as an idea, since I think for a lot of people it'd nearly double the value of the game.
I get its her thing.....but I wanna see Satie witha big belly....can the hammer space thing please be a toggle? it also lowkey makes her harder since you don't know at a glance if she has anybody inside her currently, but personally its more that I like to see the big squirmy bellies and while I get Bella already does that I would love to see Satie with a massive prey filled belly too.
you probably didn't do this....I also won against Tulpy on nightmare...by playing as Bella and when she regurgitated me I was on 0% fullness,,,Bella can eat her if she's incapacitated it seems.
that's not what I meant, I'm not accusing you of being a liar I'm saying I ate her to get the victory, I'm saying you probably didn't win in the same fashion. lemme rephase it : "you probably didn't do this, but I also won against Tulpy on nightmare by playing as Bella and eating her after she regurgitated me. " hopefully that clears up the wording, and since you asked for the proof that I have cleared nightmare, no i haven't beaten nightmare mode by finding the exit key and leaving, only by eatin her have i cleared it.
i'm sorry i got angry, it's taken me hours to beat her and i finally beat her at that time and i was thinking at the time "i swear imma flip if someone says im lying". so you can win by eating the predator? you don't have to escape?
yup seems to be only the fairy though, instead of relying on rng for a key you rely on rng that she regurgitates you while you are also hungry. Not such an obvious way to win but fun secret win condition. Keep in mind if you're hungry enough you can eat her while she has a student currently in her but I've only gotten that on normal mode since the others are long digested by the time bella gets hungry on nightmare mode.
your hunger im guessing probably only needs to be under 16% but everytime I've done it I've been at 0% I guess, I get regurgitated by her and while she's reeling from it you have an opportunity to eat her, unless it was stealth nerfed in the last patch. On normal mode its also possible to eat her while she has a normal sized student in her if you're hungry....you can't even try eating her if she's pursuing anyone though.
Hey ghost I just wanted to ask will you be planing on continuing updates on this game its not that I'm asking for more I'm just wondering if you have any future plans for this game?
i enjoyed the first 2 preds but Satie seems a little overkill with how fast she is compared to her loudness and with how open the building is she dashes at you without leaving much escape room even hiding sometimes it just felt like she knew exactly where i was going into rooms and hiding spots i was in unprovoked
i beat the game now (completed every pred with the book and double pred and fairy's nightmare mode) all preds aside from Satie were fun to play against. is there a way to play as the other predators so far i have only unlocked Bella. also wish eating other students as Bella could be done a bit faster
Love the full release, played the shit out of it, probably more than I did the first time I got my hands on the demo, and that's saying something. I'm going to have a lot of little suggestions, but that's not to take away from the experience that already is there; it's great.
So really only 2 major problems:
So I have yet to unlock any playable preds except Bella, despite beating all of them with the book and even doing a few extras, like beating double random pred, beating the fairy with the book as Bella, and beating the fairy by eating her as Bella (really nice interaction btw, loved that). Thus I have to assume that nightmare mode clears are the way to unlock the rest, and I am STRONGLY against that. Nightmare mode is waaaaay too much for my taste, I just don't enjoy it. Which is fine, it's a super hard mode made for people that want a serious challenge. However, I do not think any major unlocks should be gated behind it. I suspect that beating it would require many hours of attempts and would largely come down to the rng of how fast I found the exit key, and that does not sound fun or worthwhile in the slightest. Escaping with the book is a fine enough challenge to have to unlock playable preds.
The ass has been censored. I'm not kidding, I think this is a major problem. It's not too big of a deal on Tulpy (though I still don't like it), and obviously doesn't matter for Ligeska, but it looks really weird on Bella and Satie. Satie's ass is massive by default but instead she just has a weird dark void and her skirt magically sticking out. Meanwhile if Bella gets fed enough you can see her cheeks peeking out from the void, which looks bizarre. Plus, the asses were just really nice to begin with. Unless the censorship is there to meet some requirement, and I've seen much more explicit stuff on this site so I doubt it, losing out on the asses is genuinely one of my biggest problems with the current version.
Now just some minor things:
Satie's deal seems like its supposed to be that she's fast but easy to track. However her increased traversal speed means if you hear her without immediate cover you are probably screwed, and if she spots you down a corridor before you can hear her you are screwed. I found her to be the most difficult to beat pred by a decent margin, and that's nothing against Ligeska. Ligeska is my favorite pred, she's fantastic. I just think Satie is a bit harder than probably intended.
Tulpy's digestion could maybe be slowed down a tad. With other preds you can feed them a couple students to take them out for longer, but Tulpy feels like she just churns through prey at record speed. And since the best way to deal with her is to bait her into eating another student then getting as much done as you can while she's out, it might make runs vs her feel a little less like they are reliant on finding the key quickly or risking just randomly run into a near untrackable pred and losing.
This is a positive point, not a suggestion or criticism: I love that you can bait a pred into eating another pred in the 2 random preds mode. So far I've only pulled it off with the fairy, but in theory there should be other possible combos. Regardless, it's a really neat mechanic.
It'd be nice if student preds were just a little bit more aggressive about targeting other students when hungry. It seems like you have to run straight into them to get them to eat you, and I've only once seen the aftermath of one eating another rando student (didn't even get to witness it). It's a toggleable mode, so don't need to worry about it messing with the difficulty either, and I think a lot of people would appreciate it.
The ability to move the camera when eaten, as well as the drawn out defeat screen, are much appreciated. However, it'd also be nice to be able to rotate the camera vertically as well as horizontally, and to be able to do a full 360 around the pred when eaten but not yet digested. Oh, and a 3rd person mode for viewing ourselves when playing as pred would be real nice, too.
As far as I can tell, Bella is the only pred with weight gain atm. I really miss having it on other preds, or at least having it be VERY noticeable, like with Bella.
Also PLEASE, at some point in the future, add a sandbox mode of some kind. Let us do stuff like customize stuff like the number of students and the number of preds, let us play as the pred (not just the character, but the one hunting the students with their full size and abilities and nobody hunting them), and maybe give us an observer mode (possibly toggleable while active in game) so we can watch things unfold. I've said it before and I'll say it again: this is the kind of game that can benefit a ton from letting the player have a bit of fun with it, and I know a lot of other players desperately want this mode as well.
yeah I'm done I beat the first two pred in less than an hour but satie I havent beaten once on normal mode she just is too fast an the apples are completely useless once you get to her stage, not only that but at random points she will teleport in front of me like one time I saw her in the lunchroom I leave there go up to ground floor and turn toward the staircase in front of the exit she just casually comes walking down that staircase (noted I ran as soon as I was out of sight and stopped at the t intersection and started walking) unwinnable unless you get lucky with seed generation
I never noticed Satie teleporting just remember the pred can move faster than you think I had plenty of encounters like that though I could always assume which path they took there just fast I wouldn't say its unwinnable I would just say watch the corners and make sure you have some prey nearby that was my strat I know its not much but I won after like 20 tries.
Saw that alot of people were wondering who the next unlockable character is. It's Satie and to get her, you have to do her Nightmare Mode. Had to do many reattempts especially with how fast she is. Best strat is to reroll the seed until you get the lamia as she fills satie to the point that she cant eat you buying you a decent amount of time.
So, how many player characters are there? And how are they unlocked? I know there is Bella which is done by beating Bella with the book in hand, is it the same for the other preds?
Hi, I want to buy the game, but unfortunately in our country does not work any payment system paypal and I have no way to buy the game on itch.io. How can I buy ? Is it possible to contact you to send you the payment for the game directly to the card and you will send me a link to the game?
The guide was a little helpful, but the escape chance is still extremely low. Can anyone tell me how the exit key works, because I am unable to find it and keep getting eaten and digested by Bella. I have lost every singly try and would actually like to experience the other preds, but I'm literally always losing to Bella.
Once you find the exit key (labeled 'exit'), there's a set of double doors on the main floor, by the security room. Use the key on that door and you win.
Since it's RNG I can just blame my abysmal luck on never winning. Thankfully it isn't set to the last door to unlock, or I'd be 100% screwed. Thanks for letting me know.
Your game is fantastic. I played the demo since about 3 weeks ago and am excited to have purchased the full game. I've been keeping a close eye on this page for updates!
My favorite predators are of course Bella and Ligeska. Bella is naturally very beginner friendly with the apple mechanic. I like that they aren't fast and of course can swallow multiple prey. I know Ligeska has a mechanic wherein students may reveal your location to her, I'm curious how it works. Do all the predators have weight gain like Bella?
My least favorite was Satie due to her high speed. She was the hardest predator for me, which made her not feel as fun as the others.
Nightmare mode is truly a challenge, but I wish it included more than 2 other starting students since I love how the predators actually chase anyone on sight. More students, more prey, more fun.
So far I can play as Bella. Besides the novelty of it, is there any benefit to swallowing another student? I understand she has high volume which increases her resistances to digestion while swallowed. I enjoy playing with the predators as fellow students and was pleasantly surprised when one swallowed me. The sadistic side of me wishes they would get hungrier quicker and maybe even act on their hunger (rather than me having to be next to them).
I understand you mentioned being done with updates for now. I am grateful for your past bi-weekly schedule of releasing updates. I think this game would benefit even more with a 'sandbox' mode, allowing the player to customize the level, such as:
starting number of students
number of predators
stat adjustments (movement speed, digestion rate, etc)
Those are just some basic examples.
Thank you for taking the time to read my feedback, I look forward to what you do. All the best.
I came across a few more issues. 1: Bella is instantly hungry after eating a student which just shouldn't be possible. 2: Bella can supposedly see 200 degrees around her which is just unfair in every way. If she has a 90-degree view when walking and a 150 when standing still, it would be reasonable, but not a constant 200-degree view. (It might be 180, but I'm not sure. It's still too much especially when hiding is so diffacult.)
Okay man normally I don't like to get into arguments but i think what your experiencing is a skill issue
1. I think your over exaggerating about her vision I had plenty of times when I was on her side and she never saw me, I don't know if your running around or not so she can hear you but she doesn't
2. Bella's stomach capacity is 3 she can have 3 students in her stomach before she full, even then she has an animation when she's eating someone your supposed to run in that grace period.
3. Bella being faster than you is the point I have seen a lot of people complain about this but its not that hard to get around Bella prefers apples over you so just hold a apple its better losing a key than being eaten. if a student is nearby use them as a meat shield, even then the more students Bella has in her stomach the slower she is by the time she has 2 she is literally slower than you, and besides would you rather her be slower than you all the time then you would always outrun her and all the mechanics you could use to keep her at bay would be pointless.
4. I honestly don't know what your talking about with Bella seeing you through walls I have beaten her 5 times so far and never encountered such a glitch maybe you were not as hidden as you thought
5. your just unlucky with apples or your just bad at finding them there usually always in an unlocked room or in the cafeteria just be careful rushing down there immediately that's where Bella spawns.
6. the RNG escape system. I have seen so many people complain about this and everyone who does always says there should be a mash or minigame to escape. these people don't understand the point of the game this isn't struggle simulator were you have to press the keys at the right time its supposed to be tense. you don't want to be caught if you could just either mash or minigame your way out of her belly she would become more of an inconvenience than an actual threat. and sure Ghost could make it a hard minigame but then would you really want to break both your fingers and you keyboard just to get out of Bella's belly the point is being eaten by Bella is supposed to be a bad thing you will likely die from. and I have stated previously that there are defenses you can use to keep Bella at bay or escape her belly easier by filling her up.
7. yes Bella taking your key is annoying but that's the point think about it if you just had an apple it just means you have a get out of jail free card in order to make it so you still don't want to be caught she will eat your key to punish you. and you don't lose it forever you just have to wait for her to burp it out her taking your key is a punishment for being caught so JUST DONT GET CAUGHT. and if you find that hard than that's your skill issue I have beaten Bella mutable times without being eaten you just have to be careful and even so her escape RNG isn't as bad as you think its not an entirely grantee death I once got eaten by her 3 times and escaped each one yeah I was lucky as hell but I took steps to increase my chances and besides its supposed to be against you anyway that's why its to tense its a great feeling.
8. I honestly have no idea what you mean by Bella moving towards your last location usually I don't see her for awhile until running into her later which supports that tense feeling of not knowing where she is. she has the exact same pathfinding as the other students just a bit tweaked with features like being able to hear you and chasing you when she sees you other than that she wanders the exact same way as the other students.
so after all that look your treating Bella like she's some impossible force but look around you almost everyone here in the comment section beat her that fact is you supposedly failing over 100 times says more about your skill than it does about the game. just be more careful check if students are nearby to use as meat shields, try to predict her current location from where you saw her last if you see a student going in the same direction as you stick with them when going around corners listen for footsteps just incase these are the strats I use to stay alive and they work. and its not easy making a game and ghost must of worked really hard to get it out fully in only a month then there you whos complain about almost every feature of the game Bella's sight, Bellas speed, RNG this RNG that when in reality your just having a skill issue thw whole solution to your problem is to just get good. I will admit this game is not perfect I sometimes wish there were more ways to keep the Preds at bay and more items you could use to interact with them though I don't want to pressure any of the devs about this its more of a nickpick if anything if what's already there works it works its still a very fun game and in my opinion one of my favorite vore games. its hard the odds are supposed to be stacked against you that's why its all the more satisfying when you finally win. sorry if this came out a little aggressive I just keep seeing these kinds of complaints and wanted to address them I don't mean to insult you and I'm sorry if I have.
A few of these are most likely skill issues or just poor luck happening repeatedly. I really shouldn't be playing for several hours on no sleep for a few days and slightly drunk, but I'm an idiot who keeps screwing himself. As for the see through walls and tracking my location even when not being chased, I was actually spotted by her despite her being practically behind a corner on the opposite end of the hallway and going upstairs to the washroom and hiding. She honestly should have lost me since I hid in the last stall crouching, but she still ate me. There was one time I was hiding behind a pillar in a room I was in while sneaking immediately open hearing faint footsteps and she entered the room walking right up to me and insta gulped me. No chase, no gasp, just gulped me instantly. I'm pretty sure she isn't supposed to walk towards the player if they are hiding properly and didn't run near her like she has with me more than once. As for the RNG I finally managed to escape her stomach once and if I were to put a percentage based on my fails to success, it would be 0.3% chance. I'm a very unlucky person.
As for her speed being 25% faster then the player. I did test it on a few runs that I got spotted on prepose and did the math. I'm fine with her being faster then the player, but 25% is a bit much for a character who is supposed to be the slowest. 10%-15% instead of 25% faster with her being about 10% slower then the player after gulping a student isn't an unreasonable request. She's just a bit too fast based on what her profile says. and her field of view is a bit ridiculous for such a small map and some hiding spots such as behind pillars don't actually hide the player from the preds Like they should if she decides to check the room you are in after stopping right outside. and as for her becoming increasingly slower I had her eat 2 students and she wasn't much slower than the player. I think it was a minor glitch where she didn't fully register the second prey she ate since her belly only grew to the size of 2 prey after swallowing me.
(Edit) I'm well aware of my luck with apples being that bad since if only 4 spawns for me they are usually all behind locked doors, but if 8 spawn I usually get 3 in non-locked rooms with 1 on the cafeteria and since the kitchen is almost always locked I at least know where one is should I find the key as fer her sight I was sneaking on the opposite side of the hallway I saw and heard her start running despite her not looking directly at me a few times. I do like the game a lot and the apple mechanics are well done, but how long she's sated by them is about 3 seconds which is just too short in my opinion. I've also been pinned in a room by her a few times since she likes standing in doorways after taking my apple.
I see the thing is when shes chasing you is that sometimes shes can be closer than you think so maybe the reason she got you in the stall was because she was right behind you.
I do see what your talking about with her field of view but personally I never encountered any issues with it normally I run into a room and crouch behind the open door and she loses me so that's something you can try
She is supposed to be slower than you when she eats 2 students maybe shes not I always assumed she was due to the fact I was always able to escape her when she had 2 prey.
I will say this some of your criticisms could apply a bit more to another Pred Satie shes the third one you unlock and shes basically Bella on steroids Bella the only Pred affected by the apple trick so Satie will just eat you anyway and shes faster than Bella the only 2 downsides she has is shes has louder footsteps than Bella and can only hold 2 prey instead of 3 I like to think she could hold more but according to her lore she wants to keep her figure so I like to think she holds back her true power shes still very scary but personally I still had fun with her despite this because I just had to be more careful and if your wondering no apples aren't useless now they can still be used to fill saties belly to make escape slightly easier.
as for the other 2 preds there not exactly Bella clones they have things that make them different The fairy is a completely silent Pred with her only sound cue being the gasp when she sees you but she can only hold one prey so feed her a prey and she will leave you alone for awhile. and the lamia is also a silent Pred she does make the sss sound snakes make though but its hard to tell where she is just by that one sound shes large and slow but still can move slightly faster than you to catch you she is the hardest to escape I only escaped her once and she can hold at least 5 students at a time maybe more I don't know the exact number and she gets the other students to snitch on your location I haven't beaten her yet but shes a fun challenge.
Bella I would say shes the second easiest to escape her belly the fairy the easiest though that doesn't mean its easy Satie either has the same or better belly strength than Bella and the lamia has the strongest even with 5 students she digested us all her stomach strength is insane and I love it.
I think part of my problem is I was trying to Metal Gear it, but the small map has little to no hiding spots that actually work and as for the bathroom thing I was far away when I hid, and she got to me after 20 seconds. It was most likely caused by me overusing my laptop or a bug that rarely happens. My mind is clearer now that I am not drunk and got some sleep, so I realize how stupid I sounded. I do think an easy mode for those who are having a lot of trouble like me would be a nice addition or at least lowering how far the preds can see since they can spot you from one side of the map to the other which does make stealth less viable and make the pillars a bit bigger so they can actually hide the player. Maybe Ghost will read this and consider these.
(Edit) She's about the same speed as the player but has better turning and can B-line towards you when she's eaten another student. I think she's supposed to get slower per prey, but it's not working as intended.
Personality I don't try to stealth it I feel like the game is more about getting as much done as possible while taking the measure's to secure yourself like if I can confirm Bella is on the top floor or is at least heading there I will take the opportunity to run to cover more ground and get more done quickly while also being careful around corners I usually follow other students around corners if possible to avoid surprises that's just how I play you can hide from Bella though I would agree that the map doesn't have enough hiding spots but you do at least have enough for her to lose sight of you if you know what to do at least in my experience
I've come across some major issues. 1: Bella's movement is always towards the players last position which is not acceptable at all for a game like this. 2: Bella has a ridiculous field of view which has no limits. In a map this small that basically means instant death which is very unfair. 3: Bella will always take any key you are holding, and you normally can't drop things when being chased. This is very unfair especially when a player has the exit key. 4: She is much faster than the player which means that despite being the "slowest" Pred she is still way faster. These make the game very unbalanced especially when this game is already heavily reliant on an unfair RNG system that already leaves the player at a huge disadvantage. RNG for struggle is set way too low for escape meaning that having a struggle system is entirely useless if it doesn't help the player and would just be aesthetical. Replacing this with a bellyache system that gets progressively harder each time you are swallowed would definitely help unlucky people like me who can NEVER ESCAPE with RNG. I have attempted Bella 123 times and still can't win.
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super fun game love the gameplay style you really cooked with this one worth the purchase
Her with multiple stomachs would be soooooooooo goood
There's a bug when playing as Satie.
When starting the map, you're unable to move at all (can still look around, kneel, and walk/ run in place). Footsteps don't make a sound when this happens.
It seems to occur with only certain spawn points.
As a reference, I'm playing the latest update (Nerfs).
How you play as Satie, if its beating her level with the book, ive done that
You have to beat her on nightmare
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, ok
can confirm this bug is repeatable for me, (atm I'm trying to see if student preds can eat the player if i just hang out in front of them while their tummies are making the rumblies, yes to all for playing student, no to all playing bella, so testing satie is ANNOYING when this bug happens so much, i've also notice in addition to the stuff above there's no stomach% when this bug occurs, no numbers there at all )
EDIT: student pred ligeska CAN eat Satie. Tried it again after Ghost provided numbers =)
I've tested trying to get pred students to eat me too, only seems to happen if you're the student. I've even tried as Satie (the next biggest after a student) with Ligeska (highest stomach capacity).
not a requirement i've definitely seen student ligeska eat student satie while i hadn't unlocked satie I think this was while I was a student wondering if they would eat me only for ligeska to snarf up the gyaru, if no standard students and apples are available other smaller preds are on the menu....but now the numbers are available...a student bella in theory can eat ligeska but ironically ligeska can't eat bella
it's surprising, since normal Ligeska has basically max stomach volume
Test something like that will take a long time. Do you want their capacity info?
yeah why not, other people could use the reference and maybe I'm wrong about student bella. Really the bug isn't occuring on your end? hmmm hard to tell you what's happening without debug, only seems to be at the start of matches...but idk if this will help but I got digested by student Ligeska playing as Satie and my next round said you are dead at the very start of the round as satie so maybe something isn't being cleared from the previous round.
ty for the numbers wow Tuply has more belly capacity than Satie did not expect that.
Wait, so Bella can get any of the others? Interesting.
Ghost, then Bella (that you manage) should be able to eat a pred if her hunger is at 0%, right?
How often does this bug happen? I've started the game as satie like 15+ times. I have not encountered it.
It happens maybe 60% of the time, and it seems heavily dependent on your spawn point. It's also possible to spawn halfway into another student's spawn point.
Like it was mentioned before, if you just died as satie and start a new game, it will still show (you died) on the screen. It goes away maybe after 4 to 5 restarts.
Did you close the application then start it again. Does this still happen?
Yes, and it still happens
I found a bug that sounds like what you were talking about. I fixed it and it will be available in the next update.
What are the locations of the book?
Because I can't find it and I'm looking everywhere.
And is there any other pred student who can eat the main pred? Apart from Bella (who you manage) who eats the fairy.
i've seen the book almost everywhere, except the auditorium and the storage room
but it's most common to appear in the classrooms and the kitchen
Okey, thanks.
i don't think i can do it with book and i know it's rng based
You can eat the Fairy?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Yes
Teach me the ways
From what I know at the moment you need to unlock Bella and when you have between 0 to 10% hunger, you can eat the students or the fairy.
One recommendation I give you is to wait for her to finish digesting and/or spitting out someone, otherwise she will eat you.
I will try
I cant do it, is there any other hints
One Big Apple - (Fanmade)
For a moment I thought it was a loading screen
i think it would fit
really good fanmade
I got the game not to long ago, and I really enjoy it, it's super fun! Also, the lamia scared me half to death, I rounded a corner to go to the cafe, and she was just in my face, I shook my mouse so bloody hard.
Also, a tiny idea, for the lamia, when she eats you or another student, when not digesting, she could hold you in her human half's stomach, and when digestion starts, she could move you down to the snake half. It's just a simple idea, but I thought it would be fun.
Anyways, I look forward to any future updates, and just wanted to say again that this game is really fun! Hope you and whoever else reads this has a good day! :)
Hey i suggested that Ligeska idea first XD
Great minds think alike
You're Godamn right
Locker doors and water fountains can be helpful to hide for a Brief moment from preds, but not completely reliable as a Hidding spot in plain sight
is it actually possible to escape from Ligeska after getting caught? doesnt seem to matter what I'm carrying or how many others she has eaten I'm not able to escape.
Yes it is, But it's a difficult thing to happen
i got full game
ANOTHER QUICK SUGGESTION-
- being able to toss items foward lightly
So, to eat people, do I need to be at like 20% or lower?
And, is there a way to eat preds, I think I saw a comment, something about Tulpy
Not sure about the second part, but to do it you have to be at 10% or lower.
will be your game in steam? because i live in russia and i have no ways to buy your game(
Really awesome amount of content for $4! Still trying to beat Satie X0
One thing though, I'd love more personality in the sounds the preds make. For example, Satie was described as sort of a bully type, I was half expecting her to be chuckling to herself as she walked the halls, or while she squeezes and prods someone helpless in her stomach.
That sounds fun, giving the preds more of their own unique personality, it would be a nice little touch to make this game all the more enjoyable, good idea! :)
Does anyone know what the "Student Predators" setting does?
I think i found out
what does student predators do?
I know now
I dont know how to word it
its basically a smaller version of say Bella, will be one of the students
ah and let me guess you'll need full game to play as the preds in sandbox mode right?
Sadly, there is no sandbox mode yet, I have no idea if it will be added, and, yes, to play as preds, you must have the full game
Settings: Student Predators: Predators that you have escaped from can be regular students if this is toggled on.
I think that if you get digested, the pred goes on a sort of rampage, and eats anyone on sight
this sorta happens anyway when the final bell goes off, but having an inbuilt nightmare mode turn on once dead would be a fun way to end a round while the player is just watching post digestion
What are the playable characters, ive only gotten bella
I'm enjoying it so far i am having a problem where it will only play the game on my 2nd monitor though which bugs me a little bit.
windows key + shift + left/right arrow will shift an application to a different screen most of the time, including this one.
Sweet thankyou
so is it only bella and Satie as preds you can play as?
Got an idea for you Ghost. If you add a pool map you could add a mermaid and scylia(Octopus monster girl) that only spawn in the water and can't chase you outside the water. you could also do a Pac-man mode for playing as a pred if you think that would be more fun. just some random Idea I got out of nowhere.
A Way out meets Backrooms's level 37 - poolrooms
Pretty much. Scylia would probably use her lower mouth since she's a cephalopod. I also think it being a waterpark would be more aesthetically pleasing, but once again it's just a suggestion born from my mind wandering around. It being summer during a heatwave might be a part of where this idea came from.
Another nightmare win
Awesome job. Satie gave me the most trouble, even on normal. Do you have any tips for beating her nightmare mode? Did you receive any reward?
it took a couple of tries, but i made sure to take mental notes of keys that i had used and locations of keys i didn't use, i recommend actively listening for her footsteps, mono audio headphones make that a grueling task, and the reward is being able to play as her
Now I have incentive to win. Thanks for the advice!
No problem, for some reason it took me hours to beat Tulpy, but I beat Satie in 2 hours?
I using a Door/Corner Lure strategy, when i hear her footsteps i drop a key and hide, she rushes to the key and once she reaches it, she turns back away from you, it's a good way to keep track of her and avoid her.
you can play as her now?
Sattie looks so prety, Wish I can unlocked her, but this game is freaking hard
Finally did it!
Making comments about your experience in this game will allow me to make proper adjustments.
I looked at game feedback.
I want players to have a fun experience when playing the normal modes where it does not feel too hard but also not too easy.
I lowered the speed of all predators except for predator4. I greatly lowered the speed of predator3. This was done to give players a better chance to not get caught, but keep in mind, this will not help if you don't use the proper method for breaking a chase. The proper method is in the guide.
The skirt was supposed to be "covered" due to design. The 3D models will have a glitchy sight if players were able to look straight up it.
Sandbox / Custom mode is not something I plan on adding. This would require alot of work to make and the game is finished as of now.
Mass vore is not something I planned on adding. It is only in this game because of the way the game was designed allowed it and it creates a bit of strategy. I do not plan on adding more of this or putting more focus into it.
Android support. I still have this in mind, but it is unknown if I will be able to add this.
Thank you for your response! I appreciate all that you do for this game, take some well-deserved time for yourself.
CHEARS MATE. I didn't expect such a fast response but I'm glad to see your efforts to make the game more accessible to people that are having a lot of trouble like me. I like the game a lot and hope that now my only problem is my own stupidity and bad luck. These personal issues are still going to fuck me over somehow, but at least I have a better chance at surviving myself.
When you get better, would you consider adding a custom mode down the road? I know the game is finished for now and you're fixing and tweaking things to make the project enjoyable for everyone.
Hopefully there's some kind of workaround for the skirt thing. I honestly think people would prefer the covering being gone and it being a bit buggy to just this weird out of place dark spot.
Thanks for the prompt response and listening to feedback.
For underskirt, in the previous version of the game before the covering was added it looked fine to me. I never noticed anything particularly jank or glitchy, at least during those few times I'd be behind her when she was walking up the stairs. Either way, I'd rather have a glitchy ass than the void personally.
Shame about the sandbox mode. I'm not a programmer so I have no idea how much work it'd be and assumed it wouldn't be too much, since it'd just be letting the player modify existing systems, but if it's a big ordeal then makes sense you wouldn't want to add it to the workload. Still, I do hope you at least keep it as an idea, since I think for a lot of people it'd nearly double the value of the game.
Viva Jank-Ass!!! o Δο
I mean, slightly jank. It was still good ; w;
I got her to eat 5 people and then me hoping as her normal belly would get bigger after her lower stomach filled up
Yeah, actually, I completely agree with this idea!
I totally wanna see Ligeska have the standard belly in the front like the other 3 until she digests the player!
TIme for Ligeska, the most intense one...
I've been suffering on Satie with Nightmare mode on..
I get its her thing.....but I wanna see Satie witha big belly....can the hammer space thing please be a toggle? it also lowkey makes her harder since you don't know at a glance if she has anybody inside her currently, but personally its more that I like to see the big squirmy bellies and while I get Bella already does that I would love to see Satie with a massive prey filled belly too.
i was able to beat tulpy on nightmare mode
you a godamn hero, haven't got Legiska's first win yet XD
you probably didn't do this....I also won against Tulpy on nightmare...by playing as Bella and when she regurgitated me I was on 0% fullness,,,Bella can eat her if she's incapacitated it seems.
see how the map says completed in green? if you haven't completed nightmare, it's yellow, stop accusing me of lying and how about you show your proof?
Chill you too LOL
i'm sorry i got angry, it's taken me hours to beat her and i finally beat her at that time and i was thinking at the time "i swear imma flip if someone says im lying". so you can win by eating the predator? you don't have to escape?
yup seems to be only the fairy though, instead of relying on rng for a key you rely on rng that she regurgitates you while you are also hungry. Not such an obvious way to win but fun secret win condition. Keep in mind if you're hungry enough you can eat her while she has a student currently in her but I've only gotten that on normal mode since the others are long digested by the time bella gets hungry on nightmare mode.
To eat the fairy, do you have to wait for 0% with Bella?? Or what are you doing for eat the fairy with Bella??
your hunger im guessing probably only needs to be under 16% but everytime I've done it I've been at 0% I guess, I get regurgitated by her and while she's reeling from it you have an opportunity to eat her, unless it was stealth nerfed in the last patch. On normal mode its also possible to eat her while she has a normal sized student in her if you're hungry....you can't even try eating her if she's pursuing anyone though.
Hey ghost I just wanted to ask will you be planing on continuing updates on this game its not that I'm asking for more I'm just wondering if you have any future plans for this game?
hello everyone, I like the way out, but I have a problem, since I live in Russia, I can't buy the game, maybe someone knows how I can buy it?
try using VPN
i enjoyed the first 2 preds but Satie seems a little overkill with how fast she is compared to her loudness and with how open the building is she dashes at you without leaving much escape room even hiding sometimes it just felt like she knew exactly where i was going into rooms and hiding spots i was in unprovoked
i beat the game now (completed every pred with the book and double pred and fairy's nightmare mode) all preds aside from Satie were fun to play against.
is there a way to play as the other predators so far i have only unlocked Bella.
also wish eating other students as Bella could be done a bit faster
DANG, i wanna be as cool as you XD
Love the full release, played the shit out of it, probably more than I did the first time I got my hands on the demo, and that's saying something. I'm going to have a lot of little suggestions, but that's not to take away from the experience that already is there; it's great.
So really only 2 major problems:
Now just some minor things:
Also PLEASE, at some point in the future, add a sandbox mode of some kind. Let us do stuff like customize stuff like the number of students and the number of preds, let us play as the pred (not just the character, but the one hunting the students with their full size and abilities and nobody hunting them), and maybe give us an observer mode (possibly toggleable while active in game) so we can watch things unfold. I've said it before and I'll say it again: this is the kind of game that can benefit a ton from letting the player have a bit of fun with it, and I know a lot of other players desperately want this mode as well.
I loved this idea of sandbox mode, I personally prefer to play as a predator than as prey.
Your thoughts resonate with my own. Thanks for sharing!
Yes.
Please bring back the booty ; w;
Not the case, I put myself through hell and beat Tulpy on Nightmare and gained nothing, i'll attempt Bella on Nightmare and see if I gain any results.
yeah I'm done I beat the first two pred in less than an hour but satie I havent beaten once on normal mode she just is too fast an the apples are completely useless once you get to her stage, not only that but at random points she will teleport in front of me like one time I saw her in the lunchroom I leave there go up to ground floor and turn toward the staircase in front of the exit she just casually comes walking down that staircase (noted I ran as soon as I was out of sight and stopped at the t intersection and started walking) unwinnable unless you get lucky with seed generation
I never noticed Satie teleporting just remember the pred can move faster than you think I had plenty of encounters like that though I could always assume which path they took there just fast I wouldn't say its unwinnable I would just say watch the corners and make sure you have some prey nearby that was my strat I know its not much but I won after like 20 tries.
ok no joke for the past 6 hours I've been trying to win against satie....I'll be real honest I actually unplayable against satie
Saw that alot of people were wondering who the next unlockable character is. It's Satie and to get her, you have to do her Nightmare Mode. Had to do many reattempts especially with how fast she is. Best strat is to reroll the seed until you get the lamia as she fills satie to the point that she cant eat you buying you a decent amount of time.
So, how many player characters are there? And how are they unlocked? I know there is Bella which is done by beating Bella with the book in hand, is it the same for the other preds?
I think either tulpy or satie is the next unlock
Hi, I want to buy the game, but unfortunately in our country does not work any payment system paypal and I have no way to buy the game on itch.io. How can I buy ? Is it possible to contact you to send you the payment for the game directly to the card and you will send me a link to the game?
PayPal or credit card. I got it with my credit card.
The guide was a little helpful, but the escape chance is still extremely low. Can anyone tell me how the exit key works, because I am unable to find it and keep getting eaten and digested by Bella. I have lost every singly try and would actually like to experience the other preds, but I'm literally always losing to Bella.
Once you find the exit key (labeled 'exit'), there's a set of double doors on the main floor, by the security room. Use the key on that door and you win.
I'm asking if the exit key spawn is random or set. such as if I need to open all doors and it spawns behind the last locked door during a run.
Its rng sadly, although I am almost certain that it will always be behind a locked door, Bella on nightmare was rough with bad rng.
Since it's RNG I can just blame my abysmal luck on never winning. Thankfully it isn't set to the last door to unlock, or I'd be 100% screwed. Thanks for letting me know.
Hello Ghost!
Your game is fantastic. I played the demo since about 3 weeks ago and am excited to have purchased the full game. I've been keeping a close eye on this page for updates!
My favorite predators are of course Bella and Ligeska. Bella is naturally very beginner friendly with the apple mechanic. I like that they aren't fast and of course can swallow multiple prey. I know Ligeska has a mechanic wherein students may reveal your location to her, I'm curious how it works. Do all the predators have weight gain like Bella?
My least favorite was Satie due to her high speed. She was the hardest predator for me, which made her not feel as fun as the others.
Nightmare mode is truly a challenge, but I wish it included more than 2 other starting students since I love how the predators actually chase anyone on sight. More students, more prey, more fun.
So far I can play as Bella. Besides the novelty of it, is there any benefit to swallowing another student? I understand she has high volume which increases her resistances to digestion while swallowed. I enjoy playing with the predators as fellow students and was pleasantly surprised when one swallowed me. The sadistic side of me wishes they would get hungrier quicker and maybe even act on their hunger (rather than me having to be next to them).
I understand you mentioned being done with updates for now. I am grateful for your past bi-weekly schedule of releasing updates. I think this game would benefit even more with a 'sandbox' mode, allowing the player to customize the level, such as:
Those are just some basic examples.
Thank you for taking the time to read my feedback, I look forward to what you do. All the best.
I came across a few more issues. 1: Bella is instantly hungry after eating a student which just shouldn't be possible. 2: Bella can supposedly see 200 degrees around her which is just unfair in every way. If she has a 90-degree view when walking and a 150 when standing still, it would be reasonable, but not a constant 200-degree view. (It might be 180, but I'm not sure. It's still too much especially when hiding is so diffacult.)
Okay man normally I don't like to get into arguments but i think what your experiencing is a skill issue
1. I think your over exaggerating about her vision I had plenty of times when I was on her side and she never saw me, I don't know if your running around or not so she can hear you but she doesn't
2. Bella's stomach capacity is 3 she can have 3 students in her stomach before she full, even then she has an animation when she's eating someone your supposed to run in that grace period.
3. Bella being faster than you is the point I have seen a lot of people complain about this but its not that hard to get around Bella prefers apples over you so just hold a apple its better losing a key than being eaten. if a student is nearby use them as a meat shield, even then the more students Bella has in her stomach the slower she is by the time she has 2 she is literally slower than you, and besides would you rather her be slower than you all the time then you would always outrun her and all the mechanics you could use to keep her at bay would be pointless.
4. I honestly don't know what your talking about with Bella seeing you through walls I have beaten her 5 times so far and never encountered such a glitch maybe you were not as hidden as you thought
5. your just unlucky with apples or your just bad at finding them there usually always in an unlocked room or in the cafeteria just be careful rushing down there immediately that's where Bella spawns.
6. the RNG escape system. I have seen so many people complain about this and everyone who does always says there should be a mash or minigame to escape. these people don't understand the point of the game this isn't struggle simulator were you have to press the keys at the right time its supposed to be tense. you don't want to be caught if you could just either mash or minigame your way out of her belly she would become more of an inconvenience than an actual threat. and sure Ghost could make it a hard minigame but then would you really want to break both your fingers and you keyboard just to get out of Bella's belly the point is being eaten by Bella is supposed to be a bad thing you will likely die from. and I have stated previously that there are defenses you can use to keep Bella at bay or escape her belly easier by filling her up.
7. yes Bella taking your key is annoying but that's the point think about it if you just had an apple it just means you have a get out of jail free card in order to make it so you still don't want to be caught she will eat your key to punish you. and you don't lose it forever you just have to wait for her to burp it out her taking your key is a punishment for being caught so JUST DONT GET CAUGHT. and if you find that hard than that's your skill issue I have beaten Bella mutable times without being eaten you just have to be careful and even so her escape RNG isn't as bad as you think its not an entirely grantee death I once got eaten by her 3 times and escaped each one yeah I was lucky as hell but I took steps to increase my chances and besides its supposed to be against you anyway that's why its to tense its a great feeling.
8. I honestly have no idea what you mean by Bella moving towards your last location usually I don't see her for awhile until running into her later which supports that tense feeling of not knowing where she is. she has the exact same pathfinding as the other students just a bit tweaked with features like being able to hear you and chasing you when she sees you other than that she wanders the exact same way as the other students.
so after all that look your treating Bella like she's some impossible force but look around you almost everyone here in the comment section beat her that fact is you supposedly failing over 100 times says more about your skill than it does about the game. just be more careful check if students are nearby to use as meat shields, try to predict her current location from where you saw her last if you see a student going in the same direction as you stick with them when going around corners listen for footsteps just incase these are the strats I use to stay alive and they work. and its not easy making a game and ghost must of worked really hard to get it out fully in only a month then there you whos complain about almost every feature of the game Bella's sight, Bellas speed, RNG this RNG that when in reality your just having a skill issue thw whole solution to your problem is to just get good. I will admit this game is not perfect I sometimes wish there were more ways to keep the Preds at bay and more items you could use to interact with them though I don't want to pressure any of the devs about this its more of a nickpick if anything if what's already there works it works its still a very fun game and in my opinion one of my favorite vore games. its hard the odds are supposed to be stacked against you that's why its all the more satisfying when you finally win. sorry if this came out a little aggressive I just keep seeing these kinds of complaints and wanted to address them I don't mean to insult you and I'm sorry if I have.
A few of these are most likely skill issues or just poor luck happening repeatedly. I really shouldn't be playing for several hours on no sleep for a few days and slightly drunk, but I'm an idiot who keeps screwing himself. As for the see through walls and tracking my location even when not being chased, I was actually spotted by her despite her being practically behind a corner on the opposite end of the hallway and going upstairs to the washroom and hiding. She honestly should have lost me since I hid in the last stall crouching, but she still ate me. There was one time I was hiding behind a pillar in a room I was in while sneaking immediately open hearing faint footsteps and she entered the room walking right up to me and insta gulped me. No chase, no gasp, just gulped me instantly. I'm pretty sure she isn't supposed to walk towards the player if they are hiding properly and didn't run near her like she has with me more than once. As for the RNG I finally managed to escape her stomach once and if I were to put a percentage based on my fails to success, it would be 0.3% chance. I'm a very unlucky person.
As for her speed being 25% faster then the player. I did test it on a few runs that I got spotted on prepose and did the math. I'm fine with her being faster then the player, but 25% is a bit much for a character who is supposed to be the slowest. 10%-15% instead of 25% faster with her being about 10% slower then the player after gulping a student isn't an unreasonable request. She's just a bit too fast based on what her profile says. and her field of view is a bit ridiculous for such a small map and some hiding spots such as behind pillars don't actually hide the player from the preds Like they should if she decides to check the room you are in after stopping right outside. and as for her becoming increasingly slower I had her eat 2 students and she wasn't much slower than the player. I think it was a minor glitch where she didn't fully register the second prey she ate since her belly only grew to the size of 2 prey after swallowing me.
(Edit) I'm well aware of my luck with apples being that bad since if only 4 spawns for me they are usually all behind locked doors, but if 8 spawn I usually get 3 in non-locked rooms with 1 on the cafeteria and since the kitchen is almost always locked I at least know where one is should I find the key as fer her sight I was sneaking on the opposite side of the hallway I saw and heard her start running despite her not looking directly at me a few times. I do like the game a lot and the apple mechanics are well done, but how long she's sated by them is about 3 seconds which is just too short in my opinion. I've also been pinned in a room by her a few times since she likes standing in doorways after taking my apple.
I see the thing is when shes chasing you is that sometimes shes can be closer than you think so maybe the reason she got you in the stall was because she was right behind you.
I do see what your talking about with her field of view but personally I never encountered any issues with it normally I run into a room and crouch behind the open door and she loses me so that's something you can try
She is supposed to be slower than you when she eats 2 students maybe shes not I always assumed she was due to the fact I was always able to escape her when she had 2 prey.
I will say this some of your criticisms could apply a bit more to another Pred Satie shes the third one you unlock and shes basically Bella on steroids Bella the only Pred affected by the apple trick so Satie will just eat you anyway and shes faster than Bella the only 2 downsides she has is shes has louder footsteps than Bella and can only hold 2 prey instead of 3 I like to think she could hold more but according to her lore she wants to keep her figure so I like to think she holds back her true power shes still very scary but personally I still had fun with her despite this because I just had to be more careful and if your wondering no apples aren't useless now they can still be used to fill saties belly to make escape slightly easier.
as for the other 2 preds there not exactly Bella clones they have things that make them different The fairy is a completely silent Pred with her only sound cue being the gasp when she sees you but she can only hold one prey so feed her a prey and she will leave you alone for awhile. and the lamia is also a silent Pred she does make the sss sound snakes make though but its hard to tell where she is just by that one sound shes large and slow but still can move slightly faster than you to catch you she is the hardest to escape I only escaped her once and she can hold at least 5 students at a time maybe more I don't know the exact number and she gets the other students to snitch on your location I haven't beaten her yet but shes a fun challenge.
Bella I would say shes the second easiest to escape her belly the fairy the easiest though that doesn't mean its easy Satie either has the same or better belly strength than Bella and the lamia has the strongest even with 5 students she digested us all her stomach strength is insane and I love it.
I think part of my problem is I was trying to Metal Gear it, but the small map has little to no hiding spots that actually work and as for the bathroom thing I was far away when I hid, and she got to me after 20 seconds. It was most likely caused by me overusing my laptop or a bug that rarely happens. My mind is clearer now that I am not drunk and got some sleep, so I realize how stupid I sounded. I do think an easy mode for those who are having a lot of trouble like me would be a nice addition or at least lowering how far the preds can see since they can spot you from one side of the map to the other which does make stealth less viable and make the pillars a bit bigger so they can actually hide the player. Maybe Ghost will read this and consider these.
(Edit) She's about the same speed as the player but has better turning and can B-line towards you when she's eaten another student. I think she's supposed to get slower per prey, but it's not working as intended.
Personality I don't try to stealth it I feel like the game is more about getting as much done as possible while taking the measure's to secure yourself like if I can confirm Bella is on the top floor or is at least heading there I will take the opportunity to run to cover more ground and get more done quickly while also being careful around corners I usually follow other students around corners if possible to avoid surprises that's just how I play you can hide from Bella though I would agree that the map doesn't have enough hiding spots but you do at least have enough for her to lose sight of you if you know what to do at least in my experience
I've come across some major issues. 1: Bella's movement is always towards the players last position which is not acceptable at all for a game like this. 2: Bella has a ridiculous field of view which has no limits. In a map this small that basically means instant death which is very unfair. 3: Bella will always take any key you are holding, and you normally can't drop things when being chased. This is very unfair especially when a player has the exit key. 4: She is much faster than the player which means that despite being the "slowest" Pred she is still way faster. These make the game very unbalanced especially when this game is already heavily reliant on an unfair RNG system that already leaves the player at a huge disadvantage. RNG for struggle is set way too low for escape meaning that having a struggle system is entirely useless if it doesn't help the player and would just be aesthetical. Replacing this with a bellyache system that gets progressively harder each time you are swallowed would definitely help unlucky people like me who can NEVER ESCAPE with RNG. I have attempted Bella 123 times and still can't win.