11 more days passed since last mention of steam release. Any news that you could share? Perhaps the game failed moderation once more, or you decided to never release it there?
Bought this last night and have had a blast so far, wanted to mention a couple of things off the top of my head that stuck with me. Take everything with a grain of salt, but really kudos on such a fun little game!
Bit of Feedback - The white keys I think should be changed to a different color, in some places like the cafeteria where the floor itself is white they're almost invisible at a distance even in the regular modes.
Bug Report - I think if you get caught by a Student Pred whilst holding the book it disappears off the map afterwards. I had gotten caught by Bella and escaped whilst Satie was the Apex Predator, and despite retracing her steps and looking around the entire school the book was gone completely.
First Wish - A toggle for third-person when playing as a Pred, maybe only active after having eaten someone so as to not give the player too big of an advantage.
Second Wish - More diversity among the Prey Students, like slightly different hairstyles and hair colors to add a bit of variety to them.
Third Wish - Something like a Spectator or Sandbox Mode where you can free-roam the camera or attach it to the Apex Preds, and spawn in student prey or student preds for them to eat.
And in an unrelated question are Satie and Ligeska unlockable characters too? I've so far unlocked Bella and Tulpy, but admittedly haven't gotten too far as I still need to do Satie and Ligeska's Nightmare modes along with the double pred mode.
Realistically, keys are metallic, which are immune to stomach acids.
Books are made out of mostly paper, ink, thread and glue. Thus, can be dissolved once it touches any acid, particularly stomach acid.
So unless if there’s a balance change that the books can only be spat out once (And the next time won’t be another chance), you’ll have to be very careful of not getting eaten if you have a book in hand.
Thanks to the testing, it’s to gauge the awareness of the predator.
Black/transparent means that the predator is in patrol mode.
Half opened Yellow means that the predator is currently on alert (Ex: Dropping keys/unlocking doors).
and Red means that she’s on your sight and is currently chasing you.
[New]Open eye yellow means that the predator lost sight of you but is still in chase mode and predicting where they’ll find you based on where they last saw you.
This status only applies if you’re the target. It doesn’t change if it’s chasing someone else. (Edited)
I learned it only applies to when the pred is chasing you so if shes chasing someone else it will not change
also its rather useful in nightmare mode it goes yellow when the predator hears you open a door or drop a key so you can prepare for there arrival. and as an added bonus if they get distracted by another prey the sense will go gray signaling that its safe now very useful.
Yep, you’re correct. It only applies if you’re the target and not if the apex predator spotted another student that’s not you (Ex: If they’re hungry).
This is especially useful for Nightmare Mode.
Edit: I tried Predator Sense on Nightmare Mode, manage to beat it with only 2 tries on Bella and Tulpy respectively. I’ve underestimated how powerful this is.
It’s in the settings. (Predator Sense)
If you have it activated, try running straight at the predator, and you can see that the eyeball will turn red when she spots you.
how bout ading like a sandbox where you can choose how many students you want to have around you and if the pred will eat on site or not and you can turn on and of the pred going for you for just some fun chananigens
That would be a fun reward after beating all predators and Two Pred modes: A sandbox mode with no timer, having commands to modify the values in game (This includes spawning more students), player becoming spectator (Ex: Player being invisible just to watch all 4 preds going nuts eating everyone, or hell, a free for all. 😈), and most importantly, being in the shoes of an Apex Predator.
Ghostwhisperes i have a problem, I bought the previous version of the game when the pred students stuff came out but now to download new versions I need to pay
I don´t know if its just for me, but when you eat something in the new version it automatically sets your hunger to a set %. For example if you eat a small apple while at 99%, once it gets digested you somehow get but to 17%.
Had some ideas, obviously you’re free to do what you want with them.
1: I think the green overtaking the screen indicating the digestion process is good, but personally I think that a meter similar to the noise meter would work much better as we can see the digestion and struggles a little more clearly.
2: the sound design for the digestion is good, but i think that finding someone who’s a little more experienced with creating a soundscape for digestion would serve the experience well. (Just me at least but I think the prey should sound much more desperate to escape)
3: maybe the ability to look around 360 while inside the pred would be great apart from the limited axis we get.
4: maybe instead of the player perspective being to a bone after digestion, link it to the pred? So we can continue to observe as they eat other students after digesting us.
5: I’m sure this would be pretty difficult to implement, but maybe show the pred actually swallowing the player character model? This could even have a gameplay mechanic to struggle and break free before being completely swallowed.
lastly I have some overall questions:
Were the struggling animations changed? I saw in a build from a month ago that face imprints were implemented, bone digestion was also included, and that the struggles were more rapid and frantic, but I haven’t seen that personally in the current build. Are you planning on adding them back in or no?
What are some other ideas you’re thinking of implementing that may not be included in the notes, and if so what’s the likelyhood of them being included?
anyways, that’s all I have for you. Thanks again for releasing, and looking forward to future updates.
Sort of, the original comment meant a mode where you play as a predator going round and eating students, what you're referring to is that you can play as smaller versions of the preds while still being hunted by a pred
Similar to what Rise (Best girl) mentioned, you only described Student Predators, where you play as a miniature version of the Apex Predators you unlocked. The OP specifically mentioned Apex Predators, where it’s the giant predator that chases you down (Or Tulpy who flies higher than normal).
Student Predators IS NOT Apex Predators, since Student Predators can still be eaten, and Apex can’t be eaten (Under specific conditions).
Curious how to do that. I've tried after escaping with an apple... I mean, the answer could be just "get good", but maybe I have not approached the situation correctly
It's not related but I need to know, when you say Rise is best girl, do you mean in p4 or in persona in general? And if it's just p4 then who would you say it is in general
I haven't been able to get the nightmare 2 pred mode even though I completed the 2 pred mode 5 times, I wonder if it's due to a bug or "completed" saves pre-update do not work and I need to delete my data
I played through nightmare double pred mode and I LOVEit! This is my favorite update since you first released the game (from 1 to 4 available preds) and the most replayable.
The sheer chaos of 2 hungry preds chasing +10 students is incredibly fun, dynamic, and immersive. The change of student preds being hungry in nightmare, not just the main preds, is fantastic as well. It's very funny with the easter egg you included. I do miss when they would move towards you to swallow you, though, it seems like they don't do this anymore.
What's interesting is the combination of hungry preds and many students inadvertently gives a player a really good change of spectating, even after being digested, since the preds will continue to hunt and swallow prey. Since bones aren't spit up when preds are digesting, and they are spit up only 1 or 2 at a time afterwards (if they haven't already found and swallowed someone new), spectating can happen for as long as 10 minutes on average! This is incredible. As a side note, this is the only time I can really get a close look at Ligeska, with the 360 rotational camera, and appreciate the work you did with her model as she swallows more students.
Possible Bugs? Speaking of Ligeska, it seems when she swallows 3.0 total units of students (if 1 normal student = 1.0 unit) after swallowing the player, the player immediately dies. I was curious if this was intentional, I believe I first noticed it as far back as Ligeska has been around.
When Ligeska spits out Tulpy, it seems like her model gets stuck in the air, about 2 feet higher than Ligeska's head. This makes Tulpy immobile (still swallowable though, which Ligeska immediately does after recovering).
Finally, when a pred swallows someone that swallowed someone (inception), the 2 prey are then treated as if they were swallowed separately. For example, say the player was swallowed by a student pred, then the student pred is swallowed by a main pred. if the player struggles and escapes, they're completely free. This seems difficult to implement, as it requires tracking 2 separate instances of digestion. Plus, escaping from one belly, only to end up inside another may be hard to represent visually and just feel punishing from a gameplay perspective, so I can understand why it's not this way.
Thank you for reading my feedback and for the updates to this game, I really do enjoy it :)
Yeah, if 2 (normal sized or bigger) students are swallowed after you are. I don't particularly mind it, because I imagine Ligeska pushing her existing prey deeper inside her guts as she swallows others lol
… Is it intentional that the (hungry) predator just basically RUNS up to your location even if you’re sneaking around or just walking normally? Like in the entire run, I never run at all, except from the start of the 30 second cooldown.
Because I noticed that it happened when I was directly above or below a floor from the predator, which ruin a couple of my nightmare runs. (Or just when the predator was like nearby lmao)
Thankfully it’s an uncommon occurrence, but just to point it out.
I am once again asking for our beloved game dev GhostWhisperer971 to consider giving Ligeska the Lamia a big frontal belly upon the initial swallowing of prey, and for the bulge to move downwards into the snake part as part of the digestion animation.
It is pretty disappointing as it is currently tbh!
Hello everyone I just beat 2 pred mode and unlocked the nightmare mode of it I heard there was a easter egg if you beat nightmare tulpy and then play nightmare 2 pred mode.
without spoiling what the easter egg is could anyone who could have found this easter egg tell me some information on how to find it like how rare is it do i need to play as tulpy i just want to information if possible.
Start up random two nightmare, turn around, if something is not unusual, go back to main menu and repeat this process. It should take no more than seven tries.
I found it lol I guess i can tell who your favorite pred is now lol its amazing hope you do that with the other eventually worth all the trouble in my opinion
oh also one more thing i saw someone say they played as satie you didnt include playable satie in the patch notes so i dont know how true this is. Is satie playable?
random two nightmare is completely inspired from requests I saw in the past, which is why it does not count towards escape progress. Also I do not have a favorite.
I can not say about satie, but if you saw someone say it and I did not delete the post then who knows?
Start Double Predators Nightmare Mode after beating Tulpy’s Nightmare Mode, and it has a random chance of encountering an easter egg during the start of the game. Be sure to look around if you noticed something unusual, and if not, restart and try again.
When there is a noticeable change or a lot of changes, I post a dev log and then remove it after 24 hours. For smaller updates, I do not want to notify everyone of a small change like an unnoticeable bug fix. Sometimes if I do a lot of small updates, I do a dev log later talking about all of them.
May I ask why you remove the old patch notes? 24 hours is quite a small window to notice. I come back to this game randomly and have to guess if its updated.
It doesnt appear in my feed if deleted I guess, perhaps you could leave the lastest dev diary until the next update instead of 24 hours?
That way they wouldnt build up and the latest build would always show in the feed. Currently you dont appear in the feed at all other that the guide post.
I've beaten two random mode, even after the update, but I don't see an option for nightmare. Is there a book I'm supposed to find, like the rest? Thanks!
I have Noticed a few bugs with this new update that i think you should know about
1. I was playing as the new playable tulpy and i escaped Satie with her book but it didn't count for some reason guess it has something to do with tulpy being only able to hold 1 item i have no idea.
2. this is a bit on the minor side like a nitpick if anything but i might as well put this here since I'm writing this, there's a weird gap when you eat some one as tulpy and rub your belly where you can see through tulpys belly its not bothering me at all just thought I say something about it.
of course I can understand your trying to get this game on steam so I'm not asking for an immediate fix take your time and i wish you well.
overall though its a wonderful update nice to finally play as tulpy excellent work.
Can confirm: I encountered this issue. I assume since Tulpy is missing an item slot, her slot is always Slot 1, which is the item you always carry keys with you.
To make a reference:Slot 1 is mainly Keys, your Right hand. Slot 2 is mainly other items like Apples or Papers, your left hand. And Slot 3 is reserved for Predators where you select it to either devour students or rub your belly.
Since Tulpy can only have 1 item slot (Right Hand), Tulpy can carry many different item types one at a time. Thus, the game ONLY detects whether if the player has a book on the Left Hand, which is non-existent for Tulpy’s case.
Aside from Tulpy being a new unlockable and some nerfs/changes, I can assume it’s just some bug fixes. (Or with the new addition of a playable character, the game description was updated to reflect the new changes.)
Well, the requirement for unlocking Tulpy is a bit complicated, but I think I understand the unlock requirement:
Completing all main 4 Predators without collecting the book will not unlock Tulpy. (Tested it with my 100% save and my fresh save)
Collecting Bella’s, Satie, and Ligeska’s books without collecting Tulpy’s books will not unlock Tulpy.
However, after completing all main 4 Predator, escaping the book in hand for Tulpy will unlock her.
If you haven’t completed all predators, including Ligeska, then the requirement of unlocking Tulpy won’t be met, even if you already completed Tulpy with the book in hand. If you already collected Tulpy’s book, and already win at least one time in all 4 predators, Tulpy will be unlocked.
(Also, I won’t be surprised if this gets deleted lmao)
Any chance to translate the game to portuguese? i know there's no dialogue, but would be cool if the tips and some text was in portuguese, i can translate it too
Playthrough specific guide, based on my several hours of playing this game
The Predator (or predators in cases of double predator mode) will ALWAYS spawn in the cafeteria, and they’ll decide to either head straight into the 104/105 classrooms, 101 classroom or the Nurse’s office area.
The Predator has around 30 second cooldown before moving, so you’ll have all the time to run in places at the start of the game.
Check open areas that aren’t locked. Good example is that while in the very start of the game, check the 2F bathroom or the 1F bathroom first for keys, if there’s no open doors on the first floor. Mainly useful for Nightmare Mode, but it can work for Normal Mode as well.
If there’s no key in the 2F bathroom, go straight into the 1F bathroom.
After looking in the 1F bathroom for items, either go straight to the Storage room, Security room if it’s open, or the auditorium for keys (Make sure to look EVERYWHERE on the auditorium).
Check for lockers or water fountains, or areas where you spotted an item where you normally don’t see. There are also keys lying around the floors (Especially since the keys can sometimes blend in with the purple stairs too lmao).
If you know that the pred is far away from you in another floor (Ex: Pred is in the Cafeteria while you’re on the 2nd floor), you’re free to run, provided if the predator isn’t too hungry.
If the predator is too hungry, it’s risky to run, because the predator will dash to the nearest loudest sound creates.
In a case of the above tip (And especially for Nightmare Mode), always drop your keys immediately upon use, away from the room that you’re entering to distract the predator.
If you hear the predator’s footstep (Or wings for Tulpy), crouch and sneak, or hide to the nearest room. Sometimes the predator will walk back to the same area you’re in, so make sure to wait just a little longer until it’s safe to come out of hiding.
The rooms that aren’t locked are all of the bathrooms (2F, 1F, B1), Storage, Auditorium, and Cafeteria. Make sure to go there if you have the chance.
Completely optional, especially for ones without any items in hand (And at least 1 or 2 bell dings), but you can immediately restart the game if you’ve been spotted by the predator and there’s absolutely no way to escape.
In a case of Bella and having an apple on your hand, make sure to drop the key before she spots and chases you, since the game is hardcoded to prevent you from dropping any items if you’re already being chased by a predatorAND will eat both of your held items. Bellais the only predator that favors apples instead of you, giving you a small window of time to escape, despite taking both of your held items.
Following from the above tip, predators that’s not Bellawill still eat you regardless of if you’re holding any apples or not. In case of that happening, make sure you have at least a Green Apple that increases the chance of escape… If you gamble to win the lottery ticket. 😆
Hiding behind the Cafeteria table is overpowered, to the point that with good positioning, you won’t be seen by the predator at all.
If you’re doing Nightmare Mode, you should know that all keys are the same color (white). You’ll have to drop your keys next to the door to avoid mixing up keys that are already opened.
During Nightmare Mode, aside from the mentioned 32 second cooldown, the predator will become hungry at the start of the game and will chase to the nearest loudest sound possible. Sometimes, but rarely, will chase after you even if you’re not running, so make sure your hiding spot is almost foolproof, like the Library or the Cafeteria.
Following from the above tip, hiding in one of the opened classrooms (Especially in the 1F classrooms) is a good suggestion as well. Just make sure to keep an eye on where you’ve last seen the predator, like if they’re going to the cafeteria or going to the 2nd floor.
If you really want to know the predator’s location, you can simply drop the key nearby so that the predator (if hungry) will dash to the location you created the sound. However, It’s strongly advised to keep track of where the predator is heading towards, otherwise, you’ll have moments where you’ll encounter the predator a floor above, below, or unexpectedly. A good example is that if the predator’s footsteps (Or wings for Tulpy) is heading towards you, and there are no signs of the predator, they’re either a floor above or below you.
As mentioned in the devlog’s guide, you can trick the Apex Predator to devour the other students, if you properly position yourself behind the other student. If you did it correctly, the predator will devour said student you tricked instead of you. If not, there are moments where even if you’re behind the student, you’ll still be eaten regardless. This tip is not very ideal when it comes to Nightmare Mode, with even the mere sight of the Apex Predator will made them run away (If the apex is chasing them that is). It’s a bit difficult to position yourself when the student is always moving, so I tend not to use this technique.
Sometimes the key RNG will grant you the exit early (And also the book if you haven’t collected it) if you’re lucky, and if you’re unfortunate enough, you’ll have to go through (Almost) ALL of the keys to unlock (Almost) ALL of the doors to get the exit key… 🙃
If you can’t keep track of what keys you’ve found (Especially on Nightmare Mode), you should open up a program either Notepad or similar to keep notes to remember in the future.
You’ll have 32 minutes to escape (Which is 12 minutes per dings, and the max dings is 3, despite the Guide stated otherwise). In the June build, it was previously 4 dings with the original 8 minutes per dings, which is 32 minutes.
More information should be in the devlog’s guide
Will be editing here more if I have more tips to share.
Does the book only spawn if you haven't escaped with it? I don't recall seeing it since. If so, can it be made to spawn in for extra challenge and replayability?
The book will always spawn regardless of the times you’ve beaten an individual predator. If you haven’t seen it (And if you haven’t collected the book), then that means it was hidden inside one of the classrooms, which can only spawn there.
Otherwise, if you’ve already collected the book by escaping with it, the book can’t spawn again.
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kinda want the preds bellys adjustabel in the game on how meny then kan eat and the fairy if she was abel to eat 4 pepol she be imobile on the ground
One word Fuck no steam
11 more days passed since last mention of steam release. Any news that you could share? Perhaps the game failed moderation once more, or you decided to never release it there?
the announcement unfortunately covers what's happening with the steam version
Unfortunately, it’s not coming on Steam; They rejected the game (via the announcement).
Bought this last night and have had a blast so far, wanted to mention a couple of things off the top of my head that stuck with me. Take everything with a grain of salt, but really kudos on such a fun little game!
And in an unrelated question are Satie and Ligeska unlockable characters too? I've so far unlocked Bella and Tulpy, but admittedly haven't gotten too far as I still need to do Satie and Ligeska's Nightmare modes along with the double pred mode.
Satie can be unlocked (Nightmare Mode) and Ligeska aren’t available. Also, books can be digested if you happen to get eaten, so that’s not a bug(?).
I wasn't sure about the books, but thanks for the heads up about it.
Realistically, keys are metallic, which are immune to stomach acids. Books are made out of mostly paper, ink, thread and glue. Thus, can be dissolved once it touches any acid, particularly stomach acid.
So unless if there’s a balance change that the books can only be spat out once (And the next time won’t be another chance), you’ll have to be very careful of not getting eaten if you have a book in hand.
Is there a way to get the preds to eat each other on Nightmare 2 random?
Good lord they're everywhere
what happened
how did you do that?
sems to be a bug in 2 pred nightmare mode but i like it
Note: This is an Easter Egg; it’s completely optional.
There’s a rare chance of it spawned if you happened to beat Tulpy’s Nightmare Mode and then head to Double Predator’s Nightmare Mode.
What on earth is 'Predator sense'?
Thanks to the testing, it’s to gauge the awareness of the predator.
This status only applies if you’re the target. It doesn’t change if it’s chasing someone else. (Edited)
I just did a bit of testing if this helps
I learned it only applies to when the pred is chasing you so if shes chasing someone else it will not change
also its rather useful in nightmare mode it goes yellow when the predator hears you open a door or drop a key so you can prepare for there arrival. and as an added bonus if they get distracted by another prey the sense will go gray signaling that its safe now very useful.
Yep, you’re correct. It only applies if you’re the target and not if the apex predator spotted another student that’s not you (Ex: If they’re hungry).
This is especially useful for Nightmare Mode.
Edit: I tried Predator Sense on Nightmare Mode, manage to beat it with only 2 tries on Bella and Tulpy respectively. I’ve underestimated how powerful this is.
I'm still confused, is it something activated or is it in some debug mode or what?
It’s in the settings. (Predator Sense) If you have it activated, try running straight at the predator, and you can see that the eyeball will turn red when she spots you.
Its basically showing how aware the predator is to your presence
Is the very slow sensitivity normal
thats actually my mouse -_-
how bout ading like a sandbox where you can choose how many students you want to have around you and if the pred will eat on site or not and you can turn on and of the pred going for you for just some fun chananigens
That would be a fun reward after beating all predators and Two Pred modes: A sandbox mode with no timer, having commands to modify the values in game (This includes spawning more students), player becoming spectator (Ex: Player being invisible just to watch all 4 preds going nuts eating everyone, or hell, a free for all. 😈), and most importantly, being in the shoes of an Apex Predator.
Ghostwhisperes i have a problem, I bought the previous version of the game when the pred students stuff came out but now to download new versions I need to pay
go to the top of the page it should say, you own this game. then just click download
it does not appear, is like i never bought the game
Have you checked your library?
yes, it doesn't appear
Will there be an option for the pred's clothes to pop after they've eaten enough, seeing how big Bella gets I would love to see it.
And speaking of that, wonder if all of the weight would slow her down the more she digests? That would probably be a good balance as well.
will the game be free in a future?
If your playing as a student pred are you able to eat the big apex preds if your hunger bar goes low enough
Will it be on Android someday ?
so is anyone else getting the failed to load il2cpp error when trying to start up the game. Nevermind it was just a bad download
I'm confused about how the student pred works in the demo. do I beat the demo for a student pred to show up or is it in the full ver
only in paid version
what is the new update
would you consider controller support if you can implement it ghost?
Here to make a report.
I don´t know if its just for me, but when you eat something in the new version it automatically sets your hunger to a set %. For example if you eat a small apple while at 99%, once it gets digested you somehow get but to 17%.
Had some ideas, obviously you’re free to do what you want with them.
1: I think the green overtaking the screen indicating the digestion process is good, but personally I think that a meter similar to the noise meter would work much better as we can see the digestion and struggles a little more clearly.
2: the sound design for the digestion is good, but i think that finding someone who’s a little more experienced with creating a soundscape for digestion would serve the experience well. (Just me at least but I think the prey should sound much more desperate to escape)
3: maybe the ability to look around 360 while inside the pred would be great apart from the limited axis we get.
4: maybe instead of the player perspective being to a bone after digestion, link it to the pred? So we can continue to observe as they eat other students after digesting us.
5: I’m sure this would be pretty difficult to implement, but maybe show the pred actually swallowing the player character model? This could even have a gameplay mechanic to struggle and break free before being completely swallowed.
lastly I have some overall questions:
Were the struggling animations changed? I saw in a build from a month ago that face imprints were implemented, bone digestion was also included, and that the struggles were more rapid and frantic, but I haven’t seen that personally in the current build. Are you planning on adding them back in or no?
What are some other ideas you’re thinking of implementing that may not be included in the notes, and if so what’s the likelyhood of them being included?
anyways, that’s all I have for you. Thanks again for releasing, and looking forward to future updates.
I hope if you add player can play predator mode not student mode
I bet playing as a giant apex predator eating other students would’ve been a REALLY fun experience to play. 🥴❤
You can play as them in a full version I think. If only it was avaliable on steam.
Sort of, the original comment meant a mode where you play as a predator going round and eating students, what you're referring to is that you can play as smaller versions of the preds while still being hunted by a pred
Similar to what Rise (Best girl) mentioned, you only described Student Predators, where you play as a miniature version of the Apex Predators you unlocked. The OP specifically mentioned Apex Predators, where it’s the giant predator that chases you down (Or Tulpy who flies higher than normal).
Student Predators IS NOT Apex Predators, since Student Predators can still be eaten, and Apex can’t be eaten (Under specific conditions).
Apex Preds can be eaten
Yeah, I forgot to mention that lmao-
Curious how to do that. I've tried after escaping with an apple... I mean, the answer could be just "get good", but maybe I have not approached the situation correctly
It's not related but I need to know, when you say Rise is best girl, do you mean in p4 or in persona in general? And if it's just p4 then who would you say it is in general
Just in general, nothing special haha.
Honestly fair, I'm a bit biased because p4g was my first persona game
I haven't been able to get the nightmare 2 pred mode even though I completed the 2 pred mode 5 times, I wonder if it's due to a bug or "completed" saves pre-update do not work and I need to delete my data
I was experiencing this same issue. Have you beaten 2 pred mode post-update? This is what did the trick for me.
Ghost also specifically mentioned that both main preds need to still be alive (can't have 1 eat the other or eat 1 yourself) when completing it
Hey Ghost :) just wanted to share feedback:
I played through nightmare double pred mode and I LOVE it! This is my favorite update since you first released the game (from 1 to 4 available preds) and the most replayable.
The sheer chaos of 2 hungry preds chasing +10 students is incredibly fun, dynamic, and immersive. The change of student preds being hungry in nightmare, not just the main preds, is fantastic as well. It's very funny with the easter egg you included.
I do miss when they would move towards you to swallow you, though, it seems like they don't do this anymore.
What's interesting is the combination of hungry preds and many students inadvertently gives a player a really good change of spectating, even after being digested, since the preds will continue to hunt and swallow prey. Since bones aren't spit up when preds are digesting, and they are spit up only 1 or 2 at a time afterwards (if they haven't already found and swallowed someone new), spectating can happen for as long as 10 minutes on average! This is incredible.
As a side note, this is the only time I can really get a close look at Ligeska, with the 360 rotational camera, and appreciate the work you did with her model as she swallows more students.
Possible Bugs?
Speaking of Ligeska, it seems when she swallows 3.0 total units of students (if 1 normal student = 1.0 unit) after swallowing the player, the player immediately dies. I was curious if this was intentional, I believe I first noticed it as far back as Ligeska has been around.
When Ligeska spits out Tulpy, it seems like her model gets stuck in the air, about 2 feet higher than Ligeska's head. This makes Tulpy immobile (still swallowable though, which Ligeska immediately does after recovering).
Finally, when a pred swallows someone that swallowed someone (inception), the 2 prey are then treated as if they were swallowed separately. For example, say the player was swallowed by a student pred, then the student pred is swallowed by a main pred. if the player struggles and escapes, they're completely free. This seems difficult to implement, as it requires tracking 2 separate instances of digestion. Plus, escaping from one belly, only to end up inside another may be hard to represent visually and just feel punishing from a gameplay perspective, so I can understand why it's not this way.
Thank you for reading my feedback and for the updates to this game, I really do enjoy it :)
This bug still persists? I’ve heard someone pointed that out a month ago.
Yeah, if 2 (normal sized or bigger) students are swallowed after you are. I don't particularly mind it, because I imagine Ligeska pushing her existing prey deeper inside her guts as she swallows others lol
… Is it intentional that the (hungry) predator just basically RUNS up to your location even if you’re sneaking around or just walking normally? Like in the entire run, I never run at all, except from the start of the 30 second cooldown.
Because I noticed that it happened when I was directly above or below a floor from the predator, which ruin a couple of my nightmare runs. (Or just when the predator was like nearby lmao)
Thankfully it’s an uncommon occurrence, but just to point it out.
It should be possible for them to hear you if you are walking and you are within about 4 meters directly below of above them.
I am once again asking for our beloved game dev GhostWhisperer971 to consider giving Ligeska the Lamia a big frontal belly upon the initial swallowing of prey, and for the bulge to move downwards into the snake part as part of the digestion animation.
It is pretty disappointing as it is currently tbh!
A tough request that I most likely can not consider since there are complications that come with it
What about just, like, a big frontal belly instead? Or an option for it?
I don't really like snake stomachs...
No, you’ll only pay once, and you still have access to the game.
No.
Hello everyone I just beat 2 pred mode and unlocked the nightmare mode of it I heard there was a easter egg if you beat nightmare tulpy and then play nightmare 2 pred mode.
without spoiling what the easter egg is could anyone who could have found this easter egg tell me some information on how to find it like how rare is it do i need to play as tulpy i just want to information if possible.
Start up random two nightmare, turn around, if something is not unusual, go back to main menu and repeat this process. It should take no more than seven tries.
I found it lol I guess i can tell who your favorite pred is now lol its amazing hope you do that with the other eventually worth all the trouble in my opinion
oh also one more thing i saw someone say they played as satie you didnt include playable satie in the patch notes so i dont know how true this is. Is satie playable?
random two nightmare is completely inspired from requests I saw in the past, which is why it does not count towards escape progress. Also I do not have a favorite.
I can not say about satie, but if you saw someone say it and I did not delete the post then who knows?
alright fair enough hope you have a good day maybe i will find Satie one day
Satie was always an unlockable character ever since the initial release of the full game, hence why it wasn’t in any of the patch notes.
Start Double Predators Nightmare Mode after beating Tulpy’s Nightmare Mode, and it has a random chance of encountering an easter egg during the start of the game. Be sure to look around if you noticed something unusual, and if not, restart and try again.
Could you post some patch notes, I believe I saw them, but then they disappeared
They are removed after 24 hours. I might stop removing them once the game is added to steam.
Is it possible to post some sort of Dev log/patch notes when you do an update so there a notification.
When there is a noticeable change or a lot of changes, I post a dev log and then remove it after 24 hours. For smaller updates, I do not want to notify everyone of a small change like an unnoticeable bug fix. Sometimes if I do a lot of small updates, I do a dev log later talking about all of them.
May I ask why you remove the old patch notes?
24 hours is quite a small window to notice.
I come back to this game randomly and have to guess if its updated.
I believe there is a feed tab on here that tells you when someone you followed has made a change to a game.
I deleted the dev logs because I did not want it to stack up and become a big pile of dev logs that buries any other dev logs like the game guide.
Should the guide be in the actual game for transparency? Like a mini-tutorial or some sort?
With the exception of the in-game tooltip via the pause menu.
It doesnt appear in my feed if deleted I guess, perhaps you could leave the lastest dev diary until the next update instead of 24 hours?
That way they wouldnt build up and the latest build would always show in the feed. Currently you dont appear in the feed at all other that the guide post.
Will Ligeska be played next update?
The next updates can not be predicted.
Will next update have jiggle physics and bigger weight gain and more stomach noises and preds getting tired/sleepy?
Hello Ghost :)
I've beaten two random mode, even after the update, but I don't see an option for nightmare. Is there a book I'm supposed to find, like the rest? Thanks!
Update:
I beat random 2 pred mode on the newest update (played as Satie, Bella and Ligeska were preds) and unlocked its nightmare mode :) no book is required.
Appreciate all that you do
Sorry for not answering. I was distracted by there being a bug that you pointed out, which I fixed, so I did not notice your question.
Yeah you are right. There is no book in random two mode
No worries, you didn't mention a book being needed in the development log so I was just double checking!
You fix things so fast its honestly impressive just don't overwork yourself
I have Noticed a few bugs with this new update that i think you should know about
1. I was playing as the new playable tulpy and i escaped Satie with her book but it didn't count for some reason guess it has something to do with tulpy being only able to hold 1 item i have no idea.
2. this is a bit on the minor side like a nitpick if anything but i might as well put this here since I'm writing this, there's a weird gap when you eat some one as tulpy and rub your belly where you can see through tulpys belly its not bothering me at all just thought I say something about it.
of course I can understand your trying to get this game on steam so I'm not asking for an immediate fix take your time and i wish you well.
overall though its a wonderful update nice to finally play as tulpy excellent work.
Can confirm: I encountered this issue. I assume since Tulpy is missing an item slot, her slot is always Slot 1, which is the item you always carry keys with you.
To make a reference: Slot 1 is mainly Keys, your Right hand. Slot 2 is mainly other items like Apples or Papers, your left hand. And Slot 3 is reserved for Predators where you select it to either devour students or rub your belly.
Since Tulpy can only have 1 item slot (Right Hand), Tulpy can carry many different item types one at a time. Thus, the game ONLY detects whether if the player has a book on the Left Hand, which is non-existent for Tulpy’s case.
Thank you for the bug reports. Both are really bad bugs and I will fix as soon as possible.
Will it be on Steam later?
17 days ago GhostWhisperer971 answered that it should take 3+14 days for it to appear on steam. I guess something went wrong once again.
Still working on it.
What was the new update about?
Aside from Tulpy being a new unlockable and some nerfs/changes, I can assume it’s just some bug fixes. (Or with the new addition of a playable character, the game description was updated to reflect the new changes.)
You can play as Tulpy now! Awesome update
How do you unlock Tulpy? I've got the book and completed nightmare mode on her.
I'm not sure, I've completed nightmare with all predators prior to the update, surprised it's not Tulpy's. My guess is Ligeska's nightmare?
I think you have to clear everything (Nightmare Mode not included) And similar to Bella, you’ll have to escape her with the book in hand.
Seems by getting the book for Ligeska (maybe all preds) I unlocked Tulpy
Well, the requirement for unlocking Tulpy is a bit complicated, but I think I understand the unlock requirement:
If you haven’t completed all predators, including Ligeska, then the requirement of unlocking Tulpy won’t be met, even if you already completed Tulpy with the book in hand. If you already collected Tulpy’s book, and already win at least one time in all 4 predators, Tulpy will be unlocked.
(Also, I won’t be surprised if this gets deleted lmao)
what's is the A way out.exe? Like...2 .exe?
Not sure where that came from.
Redownload the game to fix that.
Any chance to translate the game to portuguese? i know there's no dialogue, but would be cool if the tips and some text was in portuguese, i can translate it too
Playthrough specific guide, based on my several hours of playing this game
More information should be in the devlog’s guide Will be editing here more if I have more tips to share.
Does the book only spawn if you haven't escaped with it? I don't recall seeing it since. If so, can it be made to spawn in for extra challenge and replayability?
The book will always spawn regardless of the times you’ve beaten an individual predator. If you haven’t seen it (And if you haven’t collected the book), then that means it was hidden inside one of the classrooms, which can only spawn there.
Otherwise, if you’ve already collected the book by escaping with it, the book can’t spawn again.